| Dear Chessil - As a responsible un-biased Indian, I feel i am the only person who give facts more than thoughts , this group knows that i was the one who favoured UPA to come back in power , not because of the so call pseudo-secular approach but i felt that there were some good initiatives & they would perform the remaining of the work in next 5 years , unfortunately i forgot at that particular time that this same government (led by a party) which has alone ruled for more than 50 years and what do we have today , is for all to see. Attacking congress is a bad thing to do by any means ? i should keep on praising even thought they do all the bad things ? citizens of the nation should not say anything to congress for unknown reasons? Let people be biased for praising & defending congress's every other step. CWG - Sir are you aware of any kind/type Shunglu report ? It was setup by the government ,especially Our dear economist PM ji , and had said in past that whoever is responsible in this mess will be prosecuted , Now do you really know how much people in India were angry when they saw that when only 3 months of games were left , all the construction work was 70-90% only, are you not aware that how opposition parties (it include all parties not just the primary opposition party) created huge cry over the issue , that actually forced the government to setup committe , No government ever puts any committe by their own , only when the pressure mounted on PM from media (which palyed very important role by showing all pending work , leaking roofs , huge hole in running track , falling bridge) & the opposition party , shunglu commtite was formed , this is called post - pressurized - allienated government's action & not a preventive action. Sir ,Now very important point - Report suggests that PMO which repeatedly allowed/approved money to follow in excess what was demanded earlier by the organizing committe.It also accused Delhi government & sheila dixit who were simply sleeping for entire 6-6.5 yrs from the moment they got the project.But see , what they did , they cornered only kalmadi & rest others are cleverly taken out from the mess and that poor fellow will be only target.Thats why i say to rule in India for more than 50-60 years need brain & congress party has that. 2G - Sir, Let me remind you that Oct 2009 during the parliament session , i am sure you have not seen that , i dont miss parliament session, Our dearest economist PM ji said - A Raja has done nothing wrong , whatever he has done , it was under my supervision , i take the responsibility , that means at this very moment he lied to the people of India , isnst it ? Now it was media's exposed documents all over the internet & news channels and when opposition parties halted the parliament to setup a committee & probe it , then a JPC was ordered after a complete parliament session was washed out because by now they (government) were aware who is wrong.How credible is our PM ji now , just because you have good resume & profile , it cant be assumed that you are fit for job.It requires skill & farsightedness.Now when PM has defended A Raja in parliament & later he said we have political compulsions , which one we should consider the most ? I am now agitated to hear PMji is clean , if PMji was so clean , he wouldnt have given such a statement. Do you know why Raja & kanimozhi are behind bars ? It was Supreme court & not the government of India which asked CBI to probe on the issue , So again it was not the government who took any action. Well 2G part2 is also here , with Maran being accused this time , he has more than 300 BSNL connections on his name & he investement in AIRCEL & SUNTV etc etc. Adarsh flat - Again Sir , when there was agitation in the parliament , all the news channels showed papers of the deals which were done ashok chavan , where some of his keens had recieved the flats , how CM signatures were found on the all the misdeeds in this scam.It was again media & opposition which created an environment where government has to remove the CM of Maharashtra. Sir , if you call this an action , where my hands & legs are tied , i am not very thristy , i am getting beaten up again and again form all the ends for days , and finally i started drinking something , its not action , it is called "I DON"T HAD ANY OPTION LEFT" , example might not be perfect but this is what i want to intend , government was pressuired to take action , nowhere they come out by their own to fight against corruption. Yes , here you are correct that no party can match congress's intellect , thats why they ruled in India for so many years even after doing nothing. "nothing" will be explained later in this email. That has been the problem that our opposition parties are not strong enough to fight , i know so many people who have said we dont have a proper opposition so we only can vote for congress as there is no other options , however i dont want / like congress because of their stupid econimic/strategic & social policies. He calls OSAMA BIN LADEN - OSAMAJI and he abbuses indian people. "Why my friend Shail now adays don't talk about BJP , earlier it was not like that!! you being a leftist know that " - Sir , i was never a leftist , for your very very kind information , i am a person that believes all parties are same , but congress is worst.Its very sad that you are accusing me of suporting left & BJP , and attacking congress , I am more a policy driven person , who want people to support party with good policy & not their color of flag & not as per their dress. Again i would like to remind you that it was me who has thought congress would do better job then any other party. Sir, You gave me a fact about nitin gadkari's statement , as a responsible & un-biased person (which many congress people are not) , i would say , yes you find a fault , prove in the court , punish the guilty , prosecute him hard , alreadt there are cases in the court , the difference between this scam & other UPA led scam is there is not enough documented proofs , and if it exist anywhere in planet , he should be exposed & prosecuted like others. Sorry to say - removal of chanvan was not immediate , it was media exposed all the papers related to scam. Sir , Another unfortunate thing what you just said - why would somebdoy has to be supporter of BJP or Left to critisize congress or congress led government , logic is more misterious than why more than 5000 police force entered Ramlila maidan to stop the Baba Ramdev's peaceful anshan at 1am when everyone was sleeping.That is really some couragious act. Well coming to the wealth of Baba Ramdev's wealth , as you asked me to think , i would request you to think that how a government which always opposed Baba Ramdev was never able to find a single fault in asset of Baba Ramdev ,Sir don't you think he would be behind bars if the government had slightest of proof against him ? How is that possible that goverment was not able to figure out dis-proportionate asset of Baba Ramdev. Sir , leave others , it was baba ramdev himself who came on every single TV channels who told that i have so and so amount of asset.He doesnt fear anybody thats was the only reason he came out with well prepared data & showed in documents that what asset he & his organization has.How many politicians can do so espacially from congress ? Sir, For your kind information again , i would like to let you know that an audit /income tax audit is done every year by the government on his organization , how sad that they till now they have not found a single misdeed.If he has done something wrong , prosecute him , give him stricter punishment than what he is asking for the corrupt people , i am with you here , whoever is corrupt , bring proofs , file a case , prosecute & put them behind bars. Sir , I would like to know about the so called good schemes (except RTI with loopholes) as mentioned by you by the UPA1 or UPA2. Sir, Do you really know who is Anna Hazare ? incase you are not aware , he is not a politician like animal who only talks , he served indian army , he had faught two wars for india , he is not a hollow man liek our politicians , the village where he lives can not be compared by other villages , every single thing is used in his village consumes renewable souces of energy , they don't need nuclear power to suggest that there cannot be development if you dont have nuclear reactors (mentioned by our dearest economist PM ji) , its a totally different story in his village , he has faught against corruption for all these years in maharashtra, he requested for so many years that lokpal bill has loop-holes , have you read the lokpal bill which is written by government ????? it allows every politician , every beuracrat & judges to get away after doing corruption. Sad that you know nothing about Lokpal Bill & Anna hazare's fight against corruption. Campaign started 3 years back when he started meeting ministers & dear economist PM ji of India on this issue , He declared 2 years back , that he want UPA's rule , he would see what the government is doing in this issue , if found insufficent measures been taken , he would start his campaign against black money. Sir,in feb 2011 ,exposed by tehelka , Germany had officially handed over the list to the Indian Government on 18 March 2009,It is almost two years since the German Government had passed on the names and bank account details of eighteen Indians who had stashed their alleged ill-gotten wealth in the LGT bank of Liechtenstein, a well-known tax haven nation.Why the government didnt acted on these people till now ,there must be reason which all congress supporter would find somehow.would like to your reaction on this espacially , if not on other topics. You said about Sadhvi Ritambhara , are bhai prosecute such people who create disturbance in the society , issue here is corruption & black money , it should not matter who is fighting against it , Santosh hegde said - fight against corruption cannot be a party owned formula , anyone can stand and fight. people from RSS who have done anything wrong to disturb the harmony , prosecute them , you have the law , bring them down , nobody will ask a single question. Guys ,a real story, I was never a supporter of RSS (Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh ) , when in school , one of my very good friend used to go in sakhas of RSS people , we used to play near to the sakha , once i abruptly went their and stood with them.I was amazed to see what they used to do daily , first they taught us what slokas/mantras to read on different instances in a day (while you get up , when you take bath , when you eat , when you sleep), we played games , they taught us about national integrity & patriotism , the time i was about to leave , Sakha parmukh , the leader , asked me son what are you oing to do as soon as you go and wash your hands , i replied , will watch TV & some cartoon probably , he said just do one more thing in between , after you get fresh , touch your parents feet & say them - i am thankful i have parents like you . he said - You should love your parents immensly & show your gratitude towards them all the time. Its because of them you are standing before me & thinking about watching TV. I smiled and did the same , i was happy and felt proud.Now over the commming years (as an audience ) i saw many sakhas , everywhere this is what they taught to the kids & elders.I was among the volunteers when villages of Jabalpur were hit by earthquake in relief camps , it was a RSS relief camp. So blindly don't accpet what congress says about RSS , yes there were some RSS people who were indulged in terror activities, so why don't you just prosecute them man, we all want peaceful lives , we want a better future , so capture & prosecute with proof.Don't give name of color when acting against terror. Would we all not be happy , if a terrorist from organization comes in mainstream & fight against corruption , its should be fight against any party , it should be a fight against a menace , a cancer , a disease.Atleast i would be.It doesnt matter who forms government. I said nothing is done by congress led government in last 50 years(ruled alone by congress), here are some points :- 1) Social reforms (women still illtreated in this country espacially in Capiatal of India) 2) Police reforms (no moral education,exist only to protest politician, they stil carry a woddden danda & a tummy) 3) Defence - (Bofors scam & many other , important point - ashoka chakra winner gets Rs 2000 hike in salary) 4) Nuclear policy (the nuclear policy bill was blunder , favouring western countries) 5) Disaster management (Horrible ,still don't have proper organization,bhopal gas targedy where accused ran away in congress man vehicle) 6) Agricultural reforms - Farmers still die in this country everyday , every season irrespective of the state. Sir , I can count numerous such reforms which are yet to be seen as perfect , can anyone tell me any reform which is somewhat close to 100% in this country , so many countries got independence after India but they far better than our country at this stage , if things have changed , its not because of the government , its because of people , its because of their hard work.India will continue growing irrespective of the governments in the center. Pardon me for any spelling mistakes. The fight is against the sluggish & sleepish government , its not against congress , its unfortunate ,its always congress . Tell me one thing , if everything was so correct why would people in such huge numbers join hands with Anna Hazare & Baba Ramdev , somebody will say they all were hypnotize or influenced, Sir , the reason people never supported any party to fight against corruption because they knew they all are one , they all & we all were looking for a face which is different & had the guts, who speaks without fear against the government Anna & Ramdev are two such people. Regards Shail
--- On Mon, 6/6/11, Chessil Ramapuram <chessilcherian@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Chessil Ramapuram <chessilcherian@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: ~: ๓ ђ ๏ :~ Re: ~: M H O :~ Baba Ramdev's Satyagraha & Congress...
To: MumbaiHangOut@yahoogroups.com, "Mumai HunGama" <MumbaiHunGama@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "BooN" <boon119@gmail.com>, "shailendra singh" <shailendrakumarsingh_et@yahoo.co.in>
Date: Monday, 6 June, 2011, 12:14 PM
Dear Shail,
What is your problem ? .. it is unfortunate that till now there are not even a single mail from you for something factual and genuine than your political hidden agenda !!
Here you being a leftist now attacking congress !!!
We have to think with patience , if you don't want to view things in the right ways then helpless , as there is a proverb " we can never ever wake up someone who pretends to be sleeping"
1).Adresh Flat = Mr.Chavan was asked to resign by the party in the first stage it self. 2) 2 G = Mr. Raja ,Mrs. Kanimozhi are now in Tihar Jail. (They are not congress even) 3). Common Wealth = Mr. Suresh Kalmadi is also in the Jail .
What else you expect from a political party and its leaders?
See dears I don't support the corruption at all but at least you understand all those who are in the Jail are not a normal personalities they are big shots still they are in the Jail , congress could do it. congress never say they completely purified with gentlemen, there are good and bad people , it is big party and all are individuals and we can't control each ones personal attitudes / inner born built character and when those become unwanted to the society or the party ,congress takes action . what else you expect or what else for you are crying ? shall the congress shot dead all these people ?
Can any one show some other party better than congress ? as said even if there are few bad people with corruption ,still congress is far better than this so called self pretending intellectuals like 'Baba Ramdev and other so called social workers and the communal party like BJP.
Why my friend Shail now adays don't talk about BJP , earlier it was not like that!! you being a leftist know that the " Three State Party " (CPI M) Tripura , West Bengal , Kerala now became one state party west bengal and Kerala is gone from the hand .. even in the world communism is outdated one you know .. so congress is a threaten for you so you attack congress , thinking that, will fight against BJP later , at present congress is your enemy ..
I don't know whether you all had seen the interview with Mr. Nitin Gadkari (BJP national president) in private channel from Kerala , he said " we know Yedoriyappa has done wrong actually by giving the property in the name of his niece but we will not force him to resign as there are some practical reason behind it "
See friends you don't have anything to talk about it ? Take the example of Adresh Flat issue the moment allegation came against Chavan he is asked to resign by the congress party where as this Karantaka cheif minister Yedooriyappa's party leader even accepted that he is wrong but he is still there in the seat.
come on dears people who are against something or someone will never ever support even if their enemy does something good .. here what Shail and all others who criticise Congress / UPA are the supporters of BJP or the left .. so good for nothing this email agitation dears ..
Baba Ram dev the luxurious swami who hails from a very poor family studied till high school now having millions of money and wealth in India as well as in foreign countries but he said all it is a gift by his devotees ..dear friends think of it .. poor swamiji. he should be questioned properly to know the sources of income but what to we are in India if he is taken to custody for questioning all the so called social workers / swami's / will drag this issue as communal one .. so swamis like Baba ram dev are safe in India to do all bribes .. if he is wants to be a real sawmi he should take Sree Budhan as his role model who left his all wealth / positions and everything.
Open your eyes to see everything in spite of looking for only points to criticise , for criticism you or me can find out 100000 of issues. but when it comes to the final it will be replaced with majority of good things UPA has done to progress our country before the other nations.
Let me conclude saying that a self pretending social worker Baba ram dev or one Anna hasare can never ever brake the reputation of congress party.
Note that RSS leader Sadhvi Ritambhara who was charged for Babari Masjid demolition also was in first raw with Baba Ram Dev to join the Sathyagraha'
Best wishes,
Friendly In MHO & MHG, Chessil Ramapuram.
2011/6/5 ~^ShAiLeNdRa SiNgH^~ <shailendrakumarsingh_et@yahoo.co.in> The same party which involved in agitation when rahul gandhi was arrested in bhatta-parsaul...he was shown as a hero...but now they have done the same thing.
Congress has successfully framed this fight against corruption to look like a hindutva campaign ..shame on them..
Look who is talking more ...digvijay singh...who looted the MP state for tenure of 10 years..who goes n sits in killed terrorists houses in azamgarh..who is just a dirty n stinking wind which can only blow with no purpose but to pollute the environment...d point is anyone who fights against corruption..rest doesn't matters....be it sangh...jangh ..or whatever name you give diggi(looter of MP for 10 years)..you are one dejected and rejected in your own party to make some news by talking...what you have done 2 my state..i have seen that.
let me tell you some facts , baba ramdev has been fighting on the issue for so many years - you might not have known that....as soon as upa2 got elected , baba ramdev said he will go n meet PM , he went n met him..on this issue..he said that i will wait fr 1-2 year to see what the govt will do on this issue...if not satisfactory he will surely launch a campaign...thats what he did...
Its a perfect example how govt had slept over d past 50-60 years in dis country....it was well known that he will be agitating , delhi govt gave him permission for satyagrah....why everytime its d last day when govt gets awake....why they didn't held talks with him before???? reason they thought it wont be as big as it is today...same thing happened to Anna's movement , first these congressies gave statement , abhishek manu singhvi , manish tiwari & digvijay singh said that he is RSS agent , later they all were praising him...bcoz they didn't find any link...when people came n joined his movement..that shows the congress ruled govt is not serious on issues....these are not 1-2 people...lakhs n lakhs people are with such people bcoz every1 wants change in attitude...
If you are forced to take actin because of opposition & media , that is not called an action , its called you didnt had any choice..
Jis government ko people's movement ko daaane ke lie raat ke andhere ka sahara lena pade , uski mansha to ap samjh hi sakte hai
Regards
Shail
--- On Sun, 5/6/11, mannoj kumar <manojarchitect@gmail.com> wrote:
From: mannoj kumar <manojarchitect@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: ~: M H O :~ Baba Ramdev's Satyagraha & Congress...
To: MumbaiHangOut@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 5 June, 2011, 3:36 PM
Absolutely 100% right.
I think this this is last time of congress.
Congress is supporter of corruption and corrupted.
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Prasha Ant <prashant_jal1983@yahoo.com> wrote:  At the Ramilia Ground in New Delhi, Baba Ramdev started Satyagraha...
This is all for back Black Money must take back in our country & declare National Wealth!!
But Today as order by Congress (Not by Govt.) they arrested Baba Ramdev...
Our Minister Mr. Digvijay Singh statement "Ramdev is a fraud...He collected money by wrong way..."
But this is Just shocking...
Following Questions till in Common people mind...
1. How Congress wake up now after he started Satyagraha for Baba's Tax ... ?
2. Raja (2G) ,Kanimozhi (2G), Kalmadi(CWG),Delhi Govt.(CWG), Ashok Chavan(Aadarsh), Vilas Deshmukh(Aadarsh), Sharad Pawar(Krishi),Ajit Pawar(State Bank) till in Govt. & around no action on them???? (bcz they related to Congress).
3. Digvijay asking Baba's welth, but what about Black Money?
4. Why they take meeting in 5 Star, If Baba is Correpted?
5. Why they oppose Lokpal Vidhayak?
6. Why they oppose JPC?
7. Why they hike petrol prices after 5 State results?
& lots off Question till standing but Congress diverting common man towards to Baba's corruption..
First Clean your own home then ask to other.. This is advise of common man to Congress...
Dear MHO's,
Please give your opinion on this issue...
Regards,
Prashant  |  |  -- Thanks. Regards, Mannoj Kumar || 3d Visualiser||
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